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		<title>Writers Discuss the Future of Publishing &#8211; Round 1</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<strong>LS: What&#8217;s  your biggest complaint about the current publishing climate?</strong></p><p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Publishing  is in the throes of a revolution, and the old rules are being put to the  test. As CEOs, senior editors, agents and booksellers all scramble to guess at  how they&rsquo;ll participate in the future market, Lauri Shaw asks <a href="http://www.laurishaw.com/writers-discuss-the-future-of-publishing-biographies/">a panel of  writers</a> where they see this business going &ndash; and how they each expect to  contribute to the wave of change that is, for the time being, the only  certainty in sight.</em></p>
<p>
    <strong>LS: Would  you say you are familiar with how the publishing industry works? Which industry  resources do you use? Which industry publications do you read? Which blogs?</strong></p>
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    <strong><a href="http://www.laurishaw.com/writers-discuss-the-future-of-publishing-biographies/#debbiebennett">Debbie  Bennett</a>:</strong> I like to think I am. In the UK,  anyway. I was a committee member of the British Fantasy Society for over 16  years. In the course of editing publications and organising conventions, I&rsquo;ve  met a fair few editors, marketing people and agents. I even spent several  months working on an ms with a publisher, which sadly came to nothing as she  left the organisation. They&rsquo;re all great people. I know a lot of the UK  small press people as well &ndash; especially in the genre fields &ndash; and I freelance  for a small UK  independent publisher. Industry resources: the good old Writers Handbook. Ralan  online. SCBWI. Authonomy of course. Some of the agent and editor blogs.<strong></strong></p>
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    <strong><a href="http://www.laurishaw.com/writers-discuss-the-future-of-publishing-biographies/#jasonpettus">Jason  Pettus</a>:</strong> I would say that I&rsquo;m familiar with the mechanics  of the publishing industry &ndash; how a manuscript gets from an author&rsquo;s hands into the  retail customer&rsquo;s bag. However, I purposely try to avoid as much &ldquo;industry  news&rdquo; as I can. I feel it interferes with my simple pleasure and excitement  over finding great new books. As well as my ability to relate to these books as  both administrator and critic, the way that my audience does. Between such  resources now as Goodreads.com, Wowbrary.com, Amazon, and my own site&rsquo;s  readers, it&rsquo;s fairly easy to keep up on all the newest releases without having  to follow news from the actual industry anymore, or to read any industry  publications.</p>
<p>
    <strong><a href="http://www.laurishaw.com/writers-discuss-the-future-of-publishing-biographies/#alexandermcnabb">Alexander  McNabb</a>:</strong> I&rsquo;d certainly see myself as familiar with  publishing. But I don&rsquo;t really follow the industry, its publishing, or even its  blogs. I took a number of smacks on the head with the 200-odd rejections I got  back for my two books, and took a three year holiday from the whole writing  aspiration. I had just got back on my feet again and started work on a second  funny book when I ran into Harper Collins&rsquo; authonomy. That looked interesting  and six weeks later I found <em>Space</em> was  in the top five, and selected for a crit from an HC editor.</p>
<p>
    <strong><a href="http://www.laurishaw.com/writers-discuss-the-future-of-publishing-biographies/#maxdunbar">Max  Dunbar</a>:</strong> I&rsquo;ve met and dealt with various agents,  publishers, and editors from both mainstream and independent publishing. But I  wouldn&rsquo;t say I was familiar with the process &ndash; it&rsquo;s too big and complicated. I  read <em>The Bookseller</em>, and the  fantastic <em>Ready Steady Book</em> site.</p>
<p>
    <strong><a href="http://www.laurishaw.com/writers-discuss-the-future-of-publishing-biographies/#paulfenton">Paul  Fenton</a>:</strong> I&rsquo;m as familiar with the industry as an un-agented,  unpublished novelist can be. I used to read through Publisher&rsquo;s Marketplace. But  the industry is so inherently insular, I find blogs to be the most useful  and/or current. Everyonewhosanyone.com is a great source for agent contact  details, but many of those details are probably out of date by now. Miss Snark  was always a good read, as is Nathan Bransford. Beyond that, I trawl agency and  publisher websites for news/info. Plus favorite author sites, for info on their  agents.</p>
<p>
    <strong><a href="http://www.laurishaw.com/writers-discuss-the-future-of-publishing-biographies/#elizabethjasper">Elizabeth  Jasper</a>:</strong> I&rsquo;d say I&rsquo;m as familiar as an outsider can be  with the way the industry works. I am a member of YouWriteOn &ndash; a UK-based  writers&rsquo; website; Authonomy, the HarperCollins on-line slush-pile website;  Firstwriter &ndash; an online resource with updated listings of agents and publishers  throughout the UK,  USA,  Canada  and Australia;  and Absolutewrite. Blogs: Miss Snark; Nathan Bransford; and I trawl all the  major agent/publisher web-sites regularly.</p>
<p>
    <strong><a href="http://www.laurishaw.com/writers-discuss-the-future-of-publishing-biographies/#hannahdavis">Hannah  Davis</a>:</strong> Because of my background I do feel I have  inside knowledge of the industry. Particularly the submission process and how  agents work. I use authonomy, subscribe to various writer&rsquo;s newsletters, use  Writers &amp; Artist&rsquo;s Yearbook for contacts.</p>
<p>
    <strong><a href="http://www.laurishaw.com/writers-discuss-the-future-of-publishing-biographies/#simonaforward">Simon  Forward</a>:</strong> I&rsquo;m not very au fait with the inner workings of  the publishing industry. In fact, despite my experience in licensed fiction,  I&rsquo;d say the whole thing strikes me as mysterious and very closed shop. Courtesy  of shows like The West Wing, I have more understanding of how US Government works  than I do of the publishing industry. I&rsquo;ve just recently been pointed to some  useful blogs from industry professionals. Whereas previously, I&rsquo;ve only kept in  touch with other writers.<strong></strong></p>
<p>
    <strong><a href="http://www.laurishaw.com/writers-discuss-the-future-of-publishing-biographies/#lexirevellian">Lexi Revellian</a>:</strong> Reasonably familiar. I read and participate on: <a href="http://www.youwriteon.com/" target="_blank">You Write On</a>, <a href="http://www.authonomy.com/" target="_blank">Authonomy</a>, <a href="http://mysteriousmatters.typepad.com/" target="_blank">Mysterious Matters</a>, <a href="http://www.internetwritingjournal.com/" target="_blank">The Internet Writing Journal</a>, <a href="http://hollylisle.com/" target="_blank">Holly Lisle</a>, <a href="http://www.thebookseller.com/home.html" target="_blank" class="broken_link">The Bookseller</a>, <a href="http://www.floggingthequill.com/flogging_the_quill/flogometer/index.html" target="_blank">Flogging the Quill</a>, <a href="http://meandmybigmouth.typepad.com/" target="_blank">Me And My Big Mouth: Scott Pack from The Friday  Project</a>, <a href="http://www.writersandartists.co.uk/" target="_blank">Writer&rsquo;s &amp; Artist&rsquo;s Yearbook</a>, <a href="http://scribejourney.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">Journey of the Scribe</a>, <a href="http://editorialass.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">Editorial Ass</a>, <a href="http://editorialanonymous.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">Editorial Anonymous</a>, <a href="http://vulpeslibris.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">Vulpes Libris</a>, <a href="http://fifthestate.co.uk/" target="_blank">Fifth Estate</a>, <a href="http://www.jasperfforde.com/index.html" target="_blank">Jasper Fforde</a>, <a href="http://emmadarwin.typepad.com/thisitchofwriting/" target="_blank">This Itch of Writing</a>, <a href="http://justinelarbalestier.com/blog/" target="_blank">Justine Larbalestier</a>, <a href="http://jimvanpelt.livejournal.com/" target="_blank">A Place for Strangers and Beggars</a>, <a href="http://blog.authonomy.com/" target="_blank">Authonomy Blog</a>.</p>
<p>
    <strong><a href="http://www.laurishaw.com/writers-discuss-the-future-of-publishing-biographies/#erikhare">Erik  Hare</a>: </strong>No, I&rsquo;m not. I skim PW and read a number of  agent blogs, but what I read so dismays me that I have no interest in  continuing. I can see that the industry is desperately sick, so I am more  interested in what comes next.</p>
<p>
    <strong><a href="http://www.laurishaw.com/writers-discuss-the-future-of-publishing-biographies/#carlthomas">Carl  Thomas</a>:</strong> I&rsquo;ve yet to submit anything for publication. </p>
<p><strong>LS: What&rsquo;s  your biggest complaint about the current publishing climate?</strong></p>
<p>
    <strong>Max:</strong> The fact that publishers are risk-averse. They are afraid of taking a chance on  anything good and original, because they&rsquo;re scared it won&rsquo;t sell. But they  throw millions at celebrity biographies, which don&rsquo;t sell. </p>
<p>
  It&rsquo;s not just mainstream publishing &ndash;  independent publishers often delight in deliberate obscurantism and pretension.  The mainstream and the underground share contradictions and stupidities. I&rsquo;m  more and more reminded of Robert Crumb&rsquo;s rule that one should never be too  involved with either the mainstream or the underground: you should remain on  the fringes of both.</p>
<p>
  <strong>Jason:</strong> It&rsquo;s too corporate, along every step of the process. In fact, this is what&rsquo;s  rapidly spelling the doom of the entire mainstream publishing industry.</p>
<p>
  Imagine: a multinational publishing corporation  gives five million dollars to a crappy vampire author, to crank out a crappy  vampire novel, of which ten million copies are printed and sold to a multinational  bookselling corporation. Not because a single person in this entire chain  actually likes the crappy vampire novel &ndash; but instead for all the perks and  bonuses and salaries needed to be paid to the several hundred corporate  executives who made the multi-million-dollar transaction possible.</p>
<p>
  Meanwhile, what do you end up with? Ten million  frustrated customers being handed a crappy vampire novel. It&rsquo;s a vicious cycle,  and the mainstream publishing industry is falling apart as we watch because of  it, just like the mainstream music and movie industries did last decade.</p>
<p>
  <strong>Debbie:</strong> There&rsquo;s a blinkered approach, and an inability to take risks on unknown  authors. Not easy, I know, especially in this economic climate. But there&rsquo;s a  merry-go-round of publishing only what &ldquo;sells.&rdquo; When it only sells because it&rsquo;s  on the shop shelves and the buyers have no other obvious choice.</p>
<p>
  Publishers pay obscene amounts of money to have  a featured space in major UK  chain stores, regardless of the quality or attraction of the book. Do we really  need another ghost-written celebrity &ldquo;novel&rdquo;? They&rsquo;re bought as presents, but  will they really become the classics of tomorrow? I think not.</p>
<p>
  So where will tomorrow&rsquo;s classics come from? I&rsquo;ve  seen some fantastic self-published books (amid some that should probably never  have seen print, electronic or otherwise!). I&rsquo;ve bought several off Amazon. And  I&rsquo;ve read some books on Authonomy that I believe could become new classics &ndash; if  anyone&rsquo;s brave enough to take a risk with them. Look what Bloomsbury  did with J.K. Rowling &ndash; they took a chance, and it paid off.</p>
<p>
  <strong>Simon:</strong> Agents are my biggest complaint. It&rsquo;s tough enough to break into the publishing  world as it is. But agents are like the gatekeepers &ndash; guarding against you even  getting your work seen by the actual gatekeepers (the editors).</p>
<p>
  I&rsquo;ve had numerous agents now tell me how  wonderful my work is. And yet how they don&rsquo;t feel quite enthusiastic enough to  represent it. At least with publishers, you know that they&rsquo;re considering a  hefty financial investment before they take you on. Agents are considering  investing their time and their reputation, yes, but if they&rsquo;re not willing to  stake that on something they believe is, for example, &ldquo;colourful, imaginative  and well-written&rdquo; or &ldquo;a really strong piece of writing&rdquo; then what purpose do  they serve?</p>
<p>
  It seems to me that the best approach is to go  direct to a publisher, secure a deal, and then perhaps seek out an agent to  represent you on future deals. Maybe they&rsquo;d be more willing if there was  guaranteed money to be had. As it stands, I&rsquo;d like to find just one with a  degree of vision. The entire publishing industry is a gamble, but if you&rsquo;re  unwilling to gamble on something that&rsquo;s <em>good</em>,  what are you doing in the casino?</p>
<p>
  <strong>Hannah:</strong> Publishing is so genre specific, and sometimes reluctant to take a risk on something  which does not conform. Publishers appear to me to be out of touch with public  demands.</p>
<p>
  <strong>Elizabeth</strong><strong>:</strong> My  first complaint is that some agents/publishers still don&rsquo;t accept electronic  submissions. And almost all of them take far too long to respond to submissions.</p>
<p>
  My second is the fixation with celebrity, to the  detriment of good, original writing by talented authors. </p>
<p>
  Third, that a very few well-known authors suck  up most of the available cash whether their books merit the investment or not. Often  these writers are well past their best work, but the money follows them  regardless, often to the disappointment of the book-buying public. In turn,  this puts readers off buying more books.</p>
<p>
  <strong>Carl:</strong> I&rsquo;ve no real complaints. But the current climate makes growth and new acquisitions  difficult. What I would say is that most large publishers should commit to  maybe one new writer per year and for at least three years.</p>
<p>
  Bookshops, too, ought to broker some deal so  that fresh talent has a chance within a climate of risk avoidance and celebrity  (ghost written books).</p>
<p>
  <strong>Paul:</strong> Demand appears to be heavily controlled by the large chain booksellers. Their  system of allocating shelf &ldquo;slots&rdquo; for certain types of books feeds directly  into a publisher&rsquo;s author list. Which results in publishers only being  interested in a handful of very particular subjects.</p>
<p>
  This system doesn&rsquo;t allow much room for new or  different styles of fiction to get into print, as the openings are based on  existing books. Variety dies on the vine, and style and subject gravitates to  the middle ground.</p>
<p>
  To make matters worse for writers, the available  &ldquo;slots&rdquo; are more or less invisible. Writers can toil away for a year or more on  a book &ndash; without having any clue as to whether there&rsquo;s a potential shelf space  available for it.</p>
<p>
  <strong>Lexi:</strong> There is an appalling timidity, linked with complacency. I see excellent books  on Authonomy and Youwriteon that cannot get published.</p>
<p>
  <strong>Alexander:</strong> It&rsquo;s demoralizing. Authonomy makes me angry when I see the quality of work  that&rsquo;s out there and unpublished, while there&rsquo;s so much dross being pushed into  print. I just don&rsquo;t get it.</p>
<p>
  <strong>Erik: </strong>Literature  is critical for a culture, and the industry has allowed literature to die  without even having a decent funeral for it. They have made themselves largely  irrelevant as they stand up against more visceral entertainment. I believe  their demise will be ruled a suicide.</p>
<p><em> Next post, the panel answers the question, &#8220;What do you like best about publishing as it stands today?&#8221; Stay tuned!</em></p>
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